MARVEL PENCE PRICE VARIANTS
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There is little doubt that the issue of Marvel Pence price variants is a contentious
one when raised among comicbook dealers. Many opinions abound as to the collectability
or desirability of these copies, and hence, the retail value to be given to them on
the open market, which becomes more relevant as trading barriers are broken down with
increasing cross-Atlantic sales.
As the selling prices of geographically limited Marvel 30c and 35c variants continue to
increase, there is little consensus in the hobby as a whole as to what kind of value difference
the Pence covers make; the hobby’s pricing bible, The Overstreet Comicbook Price Guide (34th Ed,
Gemstone Publishing) makes no mention of pricing variation that is typically seen in completed
sales on Pence variants. Asking prices of Pence variants with respect to Cents copies are reportedly
as much as 70% disparate (Pence variants being offered at 30% of Cents issue price), depending on
the condition and demand commonly encountered for the Cents copies of the same issue.
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One thing to establish early on is that Marvel comics with ‘d’ (old British Pence) or ‘p’ as
opposed to Cents pricing have been erroneously described as reprints or ‘UK editions’ which is
suggestive of a separate print run with Pence pricing. They are not. Pence variant copies are
the same book entirely as the Cents version, printed at the same time on the same press, with
only a change in the cover price printing plate separating the two kinds of copies. It has even
been suggested that since the Pence copies were printed to a specific number of copies for reasons
of limited import quota, the Pence copies were printed first, and for that reason many of the Pence
copies have better ink density than the equivalent Cents issues. Under that assumption, I have heard
Marvel Cents copies cheekily described as reprints!
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I decided to investigate the attitudes toward Pence Variants among comic dealers, and find out how
this small variation in the cover detail can largely influence the pricing and desirability of these
books.
The first comicbook dealer I spoke to on the subject was Gary Ochiltree of Krypton Komics in North London.
Gary is regarded as a ‘crusader’ of Pence issues who has approached several of the hobby’s leading members
to clarify some of the misconceptions commonly voiced about these books. I was very pleased to receive an
incredibly detailed e-mail on the subject which clearly is close to his heart!
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In his own words, “The subject of pence price variants is one that I've been banging on about for several
years now. The problem with these comics has always been one of perceptions and understanding of the true
facts of what they are. Most people in the US and indeed many in the UK continue to labour under the false
belief that they are somehow reprints of the US editions. As you no doubt know that is not the case. They
are the same comics printed at the same time on the same presses, with the same paper and the same ink.
The only difference is that at some point in the print run, the cent cover price is changed to Pence for
the copies intended to be shipped to the UK. The cover month was also removed as it would make the items
appear out of date when they arrived in UK shops. This was because the ships (at a time when shipping meant
shipping) would take around a month to cross the ocean. This is the only difference. If you look inside
any American comic with a UK cover price you will still find all the US cent pricing in the indicia”.
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As a result, the pricing of Krypton’s books reflect the idea that they are the same comic. Gary’s most
outstanding example is a boldly coloured 9d copy of X-Men #1 in VF condition, which maintains the guide
price for Cents issues in this grade.
The next suggestion is that due to the small print runs implying scarcity, there is no reason that Pence
copies should not even sell for more than their Cents counterparts; “Imagine if you will that there were
in existence copies of Amazing Fantasy #15, Fantastic Four #1, Hulk #1 etc. that had a cover price of 9
cents rather than 10 or 12 cents; that they had been produced at the same time on the same presses, with
the same paper and the same ink as the 12 cent editions, and that the only reason for the price change was
because of the specific geographical area they were intended to be sold in. Let’s say it's Texas. Let’s
assume that the print run for this geographical market was only 2-5% of the total copies printed. How much
would they be worth today? You'd sell your house to get a 9 cent price variant of FF# 1 right? You bet you
would, because it would be the rarest of the rare”.
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“So why should a 10 cents copy (which is a fantasy) be worth a mint, whilst a 9d copy be seen a poor second
cousin? The answer is purely about understanding of what Pence price variants really are. They are genuine
original silver age variants. The price of the comic on the cover reflects part of the history of that particular
comic book. If it's cents then it went a US newsstand somewhere. If it's Pence it went to Thorpe & porter in
the UK. But it’s still the same comic”.
In reality the Pence cover price is still seen as second best to Cents issues among a number, if not the majority,
of collectors and dealers. I asked reputed seller and Overstreet Price Guide advisor Harley Yee of his pricing on
Marvel Pence Variants.
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“It depends mostly on which comic and the condition. For books in the region of Very Good condition there
is very little difference in the selling price. When it comes to high grade and particularly key issues,
the difference would usually be a 50-70% reduction in price”.
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UK dealer Chris Pearson of Chris’s Comics went further; “I used to have a sign on my show stand offering a
`sympathetic shredding service’ for Pence copies, but I had to take it down as it got some people’s backs up”.
The experience of low demand for Pence issues has forced him to review his stock and he does not offer any
Pence copies except silver and bronze age X-Men books. They are sold at about half Overstreet guide value on
his stand.
“It depends very much on the situation- I wrote in to Comics International suggesting a cartoon where a dealer
buys Pence cover comics from a collector saying “well, they’re not going to sell, so I’ll offer you a few cents
on the dollar of guide value”. In the next panel the same dealer is selling the books at a huge cost over guide
value, calling them ‘Rare Export Variant Editions’”. In his view, some people will pay the same prices for Pence
copies as for Cents, but in his favourite market areas of high grade Golden Age, Silver Age and pre-code ECs,
Pence priced books are a fly in the ointment.
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“Some people want to buy Cents copies because that’s what they were used to buying from the newsstands” says
collector and dealer Ken Harman. “Myself, I was used to buying Pence copies because that was what was available
at the time. But I still collect Cents copies.” [He lays two copies of Fantastic Four #2 in front of me] “This
one is Cents but the other is a Pence copy- the Pence one is in higher grade, and that makes more of a difference
to the value than the pricing on the cover”.
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The nostalgia goes some way to explaining the resistance of some collectors in paying similar sums for Pence
copies as for Cents issues. There is the perception that there is something ‘ersatz’ about Pence copies that
make them seem ‘less authentic’, particularly to American buyers and to those using comicbooks as an investment
vehicle. UK dealer Paul McCartney, whose Pence Variants are labeled at 25% below guide, says “it’s a shame that
the perception is that we have to sell Pence copies for less, because they’re still almost the same comic. In
the States a lot of dealers emphasise the difference in price because that works to their advantage when dealing
with the UK”.
Conversely, David Finn of Incognito Comics admits “we sell to a collector who only buys Pence copies” which is
seconded by SilverAcre’s Darryl Jones; “people start to buy Pence copies when they’ve completed a nice run of
books. They are a proper variant, and in fact the chances of getting them in high grade are much less when they’ve
been sitting on a container ship for seven weeks. I have talked to Bob Overstreet about how Pence copies are
described, as they used to call them ‘UK editions’. We would like them to be called Pence Price Variants”.
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The last word on the subject of changing perceptions on Pence variants should go to Gary Ochiltree; “I noticed
that CGC were using the term UK Edition on the census of their web site. After various email discussions between
CGC myself and Dave of Incognito Comics we wound up having to compare two copies of Amazing Fantasy #15 (one cents
& one Pence) in order to convince them that the description was misleading. It seems that they had seen very few
Pence copies. Anyway, the UK Edition heading on the census was amended to Country/Variant. Again, not the exact
phraseology I would chose, but much better than ‘UK Edition’. If the standard rules of supply and demand were to
apply they should be worth way more than the common cent copies. As ever with these things the market will decide,
but I think just changing the way we describe these things is step in the right direction”.
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-- IAN
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